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OK, a poll to probe the LiveJournal Group Mind on the question of popular music:

Poll #541801 NME darlings

Which of the following, in your opinion, have redeeming qualities?

Interpol
3(15.8%)
Franz Ferdinand
0(0.0%)
The Killers
0(0.0%)
The Shrubbery Bravery
0(0.0%)
Kasabian
0(0.0%)
The Kaiser Chiefs
1(5.3%)
Razorlight
0(0.0%)
The Futureheads
1(5.3%)
Bloc Party
0(0.0%)
anything Pete Doherty's involved in
0(0.0%)

Maxïmo Park

Trendy NME-Carling-Xfm indie-rock rubbish
9(52.9%)
The next Pulp
1(5.9%)
Umm.. isn't he a Norwegian lounge singer or something?
7(41.2%)
Current Music:
McCarthy - Franz Hals
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On July 29th, 2005 11:24 am (UTC), kineticfactory commented:
Um, it looks like the LJ poll system doesn't allow strikethrough in options...
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On July 29th, 2005 11:57 am (UTC), katstevens commented:
Pete D has redeeming qualities because the more money he makes, the more revenue 1234 has to plug my single.
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On July 29th, 2005 12:37 pm (UTC), hazyjayne commented:
Is it bad if the only redeeming feature is that they are HOT attractive?





OK, OK... I have a boys in make-up thing...
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On July 29th, 2005 01:26 pm (UTC), jody_macgregor commented:
I honestly like the Futureheads' doo-wop punk. Partly I'm just glad to hear a new punk band who don't suck donkeys.
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On July 29th, 2005 05:03 pm (UTC), dreamstooloud commented:
I have to abstain because the only ones I've heard are the Killers. I've heard two songs, the big hit and some other one. I loved the big hit, the other one was awful.
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On July 30th, 2005 12:35 am (UTC), milky_vii commented:
i really dig maximo park but I don't think they are next pulp. I don't even really think they are very much like pulp.
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On July 30th, 2005 09:46 am (UTC), kineticfactory replied:
The Independent article linked to there seems to make a case for their frontman being a Jarvis Cocker-esque figure. I haven't heard them, though have heard conflicting evidence as to what they are, hence the poll.
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On July 30th, 2005 02:58 am (UTC), tyrsalvia commented:
Actually, I don't know who half the bands you listed are, but I like the other ones ok. A friend of mine here is a *major* fan of the Kaiser Chiefs, and goes to almost all their US shows and takes fucking amazing photographs. I bought their cd to see what she was on about, and they're not bad, but very fluffy. I'm not sure why they inspire such devotion.
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On July 30th, 2005 09:49 am (UTC), kineticfactory replied:
I take it you don't read NME then. :-)

I listened to the Kaiser Chiefs and they seem to be jumping on a bandwagon started by Interpol and/or Franz Ferdinand; the sharp suits, the copying of the style of early-80s new-wave post-punk bands like Gang Of Four and XTC, and so on.
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On August 5th, 2005 03:31 pm (UTC), kineticfactory replied:
That is arguable, though one can do things which are new, or at least less fashionable. The ironic thing is that that's exactly what XTC, Wire, Gang Of Four and such were doing a quarter of a century ago, while their newer imitators take off a lot of their style but, by definition, come out with a stylised, backward-looking fashion stance that's pretty much completely opposite to what the originals were getting at.
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On July 30th, 2005 05:03 am (UTC), bizza commented:
I like the Libertines but "anything Pete Doherty's involved in" is quite a broad statement, and I'm quite sure he's involved in things which have no redeeming qualities. His live8 performance, for example.

The Kaiser Chiefs I think have some catchy songs, an interesting sound and I want to like them, but I also distinctly get the impression that there's a distinct lack of "we mean it maaaan" in their music - it's all calculated and lacks soul.

tim.
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On July 30th, 2005 09:44 am (UTC), kineticfactory replied:
Didn't the Libertines only become passable after they sacked him and got someone competent? Anyway, that poll entry was a reference to NME and such hyping him as some kind of rockist dionysiac genius à la Iggy Pop or something.

I heard some of the Kaiser Chiefs album on the plane back from Australia, and it did sound like they were just ripping off the style of bands from 20+ years earlier (Gang of Four and XTC are the most obvious candidates, though I was reminded of The Models' early work, like Atlantic Romantic) in a very calculated career move. The fact that bands from Regurgitator to The Vivian Girls had been there and done that some years earlier devalues the new wave of new-wave copyism somewhat in my view.
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On July 30th, 2005 04:05 pm (UTC), bizza replied:
I thought the Kaiser Chiefs' influences were more straightforward than Gang Of Four (I don't hear any of them in it) - there's some XTC, but a bunch of Blur and Madness. But yeah - it all seems very calculated. It's worked though I think - their particular brand of new wave copyism is at least distinctively them, in a way a bunch of those other bands aren't distinctively anything in particular - but in any case, I'm bored of bands sounding like its 1980 already and when I hear a song like that on the radio these days I just flick it to a different station.

I think the Libertines needed both Barat and Doherty, in the same way the Beatles needed both Lennon and McCartney to balance each other out - Barat is less drug fucked and his music is less poppy than Doherty, and the combination of the two kind of works, I think. Doherty is a talented man, but the whole dionysiac genius thing is incredibly ghoulish, he's just injecting himself away...it's not funny or romantic, it's just sad.

tim.
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On July 30th, 2005 07:03 pm (UTC), kineticfactory replied:
I get the Madness reference, though didn't pick up the Blur. Then again, I've only heard about half the album on an airliner and the two singles in various other places. I'm tempted at my next DJ set to play some Models and tell people it's the new Kaiser Chiefs single, leaked on the internet.

Maybe you're right about the Libertines, though to me they sound like just one of many boringly rockist bands saturating the UK alternative music sphere.
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